Running the Hydraulic lines

[Nic]

Im thinking about drilling 1/2" holes at the front of the ram pockets and feed the hydraulic lines through those holes, in line with where they come out of the ram.

The top line would move back and forth through the hole as the top opens and closes. I'm thinking some of the nylon brush material could be used on the backside to help "seal" the hole a little.

After it exits the pocket Im thinking I can attach it to the underside of the wheel well arches, against the inside of the body to keep it up and away from the wheels. It'll run through the steering linkage area into the boot through the passenger side of the car, and then to the pump finally.

How are others running their lines and the path they take.

 

[Brett Proctor]

I don't have a hydraulic top but If I had to do it I think I would put the lines as close as possible to the pivot point to eliminate as much movement in the lines as possible


As far as the route to take, putting them in the wheel wells would leave them open to debris from the road, Debris flung up from the tires might hit the lines and cause them to fail.

Maybe run them inside at the base of the sides and cover them with carpet, then make an opening in the front firewall that you can seal with a rubber grommet or rubber boot and then to the pump.

 

[Nic]

Hmm. I like your idea of routing Brett. Seems like it would prevent a lot of movement and friction on the top hydraulic line. Regarding preventing road debris from hitting the lines, good point. Maybe if I cover them it'll help protect them. Split loom is the first thing that comes to mind. There could be better options though.

 

[Brett Proctor]

There could be better options though.

I have no doubt in my mind that there probably is but since nobody else was offering any help(must be top secret stuff)I figured I'd put my 2 cents in.

 

[letterman7]

Not secret.. just many options. On the first car, my pump was mounted behind the seat. So the lines went inside of the side pods to an exit at the rear and looped to the pump. Nothing fancy, and no grommets through the fiberglass. Current car has the pump under the dash. Same basic thing, lines up the inside of the body through a hole and to the pump. Your rams shouldn't be moving that much to affect the lines any; a simple aluminum cover or conduit through the wheel well will alleviate any road debris issues. The nylon line (both black and white versions) are pretty tough though.

 

[Brett Proctor]

Not secret.. just many options. On the first car, my pump was mounted behind the seat. So the lines went inside of the side pods to an exit at the rear and looped to the pump. Nothing fancy, and no grommets through the fiberglass. Current car has the pump under the dash. Same basic thing, lines up the inside of the body through a hole and to the pump. Your rams shouldn't be moving that much to affect the lines any; a simple aluminum cover or conduit through the wheel well will alleviate any road debris issues. The nylon line (both black and white versions) are pretty tough though.

OK let me see if I got this right.

Nobody is helping because there are so many options.(That's Bull Sh*t)

I remember when there use to be a time when everyone was eager to help a fellow member.`

So Nic was maybe thinking of putting the pump up front but with your input now he is open to a different option that he over looked or didn't think of.

Help me out here guys, why have we stopped helping out other members?????

Nic asked for some help(he's one of the first members to this site) and only one member replied (I exclude myself because my post was just an idea)

That's not right.

Disclaimer:
Just my opinion

 

[letterman7]

You're right Brett. Not so much it was a bull answer, but there are quite a few options. Interest seems to be quite seasonal. The Nova forum is quiet this time of year as well - many cars are in hibernation due to weather (not everyone can have warm days and be retired all at the same time ). Many of us have catch-up projects in the winter that preclude working on the cars at all...

 

[ydeardorff]

I'd be no help as mine isnt my permanent system and is just hodge podged in place until I get my linear actuator system installed.*hi-ya*

 

[Peter]

I would love to help, what's a pump, *hmmm*

Actuators on gull wing doors doesn't really help does it?

Warm days and retired, hmmmm wonder who's that lucky *nothing to see*? it's down to 8c here, at night, currently 15c and sunny.*na-na-na*

All our forums are a bit quite at the moment. In fact it is a bit embarrassing seeing my name as last post on ALL the EOC threads at the moment *oh my*.

Then of course there are people who have been blasted *incoming tomatos*by other members when they offer advice and opinions so they feel less like being helpful.*yipes*
Good job I have a thick skin.*pbpbpbp!*

Onwards and sideways *going for a drive*

 

[Brett Proctor]

You're right Brett. Not so much it was a bull answer, but there are quite a few options. Interest seems to be quite seasonal. The Nova forum is quiet this time of year as well - many cars are in hibernation due to weather (not everyone can have warm days and be retired all at the same time ). Many of us have catch-up projects in the winter that preclude working on the cars at all...

Sorry Rick if I sounded harsh.

But the way I was looking at it was just because building has stopped for many that doesn't mean the help has to stop also(or does it)

I don't have to look at my build to remember how I did something.

Nic was just asking for a little info and nobody wanted to help the guy out and that just rubbed me in the wrong direction.
To me now is the time to start sharing info and getting your game plan together for when it warms up so you can attack the build with authority.

Sorry guys, didn't mean to offend anyone, just trying to help Nic out and get some of you motivated to share your info.

Then of course there are people who have been blasted *incoming tomatos*by other members when they offer advice and opinions so they feel less like being helpful.*yipes*

Your right Peter. Been there myself.
To bad it's gotten to that


Brett

 

[Nic]

Yipes! I started a bit o'drama it seems. Yeah, the forums are quiet so any reply is unexpected.

I appreciate anyone's feedback, because its an idea or opinion that's different than mine. It might be better, it might not, it might get me to think about it another way. So it's all good.

I do have the pump installed in the boot, it's closes to the battery and just seems like the best place for it I guess. I'll see if I can get the tubing to run the way you suggested it Brett. I like that idea.


p.s. I took my engine to the local VW shop, they are going to go through and finish up some of the major stuff that I dont have the time, skill, knowledge or patience for. Hope to have it back next week.

 

[vpogv]

Here's how I did mine - straight from the boot into the cabin. Single hole out of the boot:

4 separate holes into the cabin with simple nylon wire "holders" keeping them together and out of the way:

NOTE: I regret and will always reget not putting on gromets on the inside holes. No excuse going back and doing it now other than it's a pain in the a** so I refuse to. I will just keep checking them as time goes on.

Here you can see how much up and out of the way the lines are: