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hotrodbones
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with those pictures, i wouldnt pay 2k. im not a big VW engine person/mechanic. but if its siezed, thats money you dont know how bad it can get.
I don't think it's too bad for $2000. Which here in Oz is currently around the $2240. Says he's not willing to negotiate down, but who sells a car privately advertising it at the 'desired' price? You always ask for more then you want, so you can negotiate down with potential buyers. Anyway, it sounds like a fair project. The wheels and the windscreen are probably at least half the asking price. If not more. Windscreen (though not "oem Ferrari *laugh*) looks good and the body looks to be all there.
Standard VW engines don't cost the earth, so I'd just buy a running one, maybe find a VW place that will include the seized one as part of the exchange. New floorpan. New tyres. It would be a body off build/restro. That mystery interior will probably need redoing too. I think its a sound project car, for a fair price. If the guy really wants to sell it, then he needs to be more flexible with his price.
Standard VW engines don't cost the earth, so I'd just buy a running one, maybe find a VW place that will include the seized one as part of the exchange. New floorpan. New tyres. It would be a body off build/restro. That mystery interior will probably need redoing too. I think its a sound project car, for a fair price. If the guy really wants to sell it, then he needs to be more flexible with his price.
Peter
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I agree $2000 isn't TOO bad but $1500 would be nearer but only because of the good screen, (Ferrari ?) and those turbo vacs. It looks to me (an SS owner so what do I know) to be a MkI with the headlight covers missing. Pair of floors are only $200, so I would say a good project, just needs someone willing to travel to buy it, who as has transport, money, secure, dry space to put it, skills to do it, understanding family and will power to stay the distance, not too much to ask surely? *hmmm*
letterman7
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Yeah, that's not too bad considering the glass alone would cost you over a grand for all four pieces. Motors can be had used for relatively inexpensive; floorpans you're likely to want to drop lower anyway. As long as the rest of the car is solid it isn't a bad deal. The only deal killer would be if he didn't have a title.
I was thinking it wasn't too awfully bad either and I agree about the floorpans probably needing dropped anyway. I already sent the seller an email asking if he had clear title and requesting more photos of the areas needing repair etc. We'll see what he says.
Now, Peter, about all this.. *hmmm*
Well, the seller only lives a couple of hours away and I have most of these. *laugh* Isn't the challenge of trying something new at least part of the reason most of you got into this "hobby"? The challenges and just a touch of *insane* I think. *thumbs up*
Thanks folks. I'll let you know what the seller says about the title and pics.
Thanks! I'll let you know what the seller says.
hotrodbones
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i will admit when im wrong. the majority has spoken and i was off the mark.
i base my value on the Cimbria that i picked up for $1k. no motor, floor needing replaced, broken window, and terrible wiring.
when i got the car in hand, i felt $1k was probably too much, lol. no regrets on the buy, but i could have asked for a lower price and replaced one of said broken parts. but i bought it on ebay, lol
i base my value on the Cimbria that i picked up for $1k. no motor, floor needing replaced, broken window, and terrible wiring.
when i got the car in hand, i felt $1k was probably too much, lol. no regrets on the buy, but i could have asked for a lower price and replaced one of said broken parts. but i bought it on ebay, lol
letterman7
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You're not wrong. While the asking price is a bit high, that doesn't mean you can't talk the seller down by flashing a wad of cash at him. It's supply and demand and how much a buyer is willing to pay and/or negotiate.
I took a look and some pictures of this car today. would have got a few more but my camera battery ran out.
Dual port engine seized from sitting. couple nasty notches cut on both sides of engine cover.
Those cutouts show even with the engine cover on. Engine cover fiberglass modification work is very poorly done.
Only real damage on car on rear quarter that was cracked. doesn't look bad, should be easy to finish work on it.
don't think I have seen a recessed latch like this, my sebring was flush mounted
Seats look good in car, covers hard and need changing, of course they could have been hard because it was 0 degrees out. Driver side window not on car but inside. All windows looked good.
Typical dash work needed. door pockets are both there and hydraulic lift cyl can be seen.
overhead switch console was rough and unfinished
back looked intact. exhaust seemed kind of low to ground.
Rims looked wide but pretty good. tires were shot and dry rotted and cracked sidewalls.
Underfront looked nice and not hacked up but couldn't get picture. Floor pan was shot in places, it looks like the car sits lower than my sebring by about 2 inches, could be tires profile or the fact they were shot.
Dual port engine seized from sitting. couple nasty notches cut on both sides of engine cover.
Those cutouts show even with the engine cover on. Engine cover fiberglass modification work is very poorly done.
Only real damage on car on rear quarter that was cracked. doesn't look bad, should be easy to finish work on it.
don't think I have seen a recessed latch like this, my sebring was flush mounted
Seats look good in car, covers hard and need changing, of course they could have been hard because it was 0 degrees out. Driver side window not on car but inside. All windows looked good.
Typical dash work needed. door pockets are both there and hydraulic lift cyl can be seen.
overhead switch console was rough and unfinished
back looked intact. exhaust seemed kind of low to ground.
Rims looked wide but pretty good. tires were shot and dry rotted and cracked sidewalls.
Underfront looked nice and not hacked up but couldn't get picture. Floor pan was shot in places, it looks like the car sits lower than my sebring by about 2 inches, could be tires profile or the fact they were shot.
letterman7
Honorary Admin
Those engine notches are typical of a dual carb motor. Since this isn't one, assume that either the motor was changed or the carb. Either way, any engine cover wouldn't cover the holes. I can't tell you how many times I've seen that hack instead of the PO finding the correct intake manifolds. On the plus side, it has the OK seats,steering wheel and the ultra rare a/c unit on the passenger side. Everything is salvageable if gotten for the right price.
Oh, and the latch - they are all that way on the cars that the owners have retained them on.
Oh, and the latch - they are all that way on the cars that the owners have retained them on.
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Flyer615
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My car had that same A/C unit in it. It must have been a special made for these cars. It fits too well not to.
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letterman7
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Right! At least throw a tarp over it.
Peter
Active member
So sad, only a little care needed to save so much work, I just hope it goes to a buyer who will restore it.
All too often I see cars in this state and it shows just what scant regard they are held in by uneducated owners, "just a cheap plastic kit car, not worth much", is the general statement when approached and at least two Eagles were lost last year as the owner wanted the VW chassis and engine but not the body and they just wanted the body gone and one is currently under threat of being scrapped unless someone pays $2 for it, so far, no takers, maybe it's the load of work and 700 pounds for the glass set that is a put off as well as the rarity and cost of a decent VW donor or special chassis.
I can understand why guys hack things up, back in 1968 I had a nice little green Morris 8 which used to take my pals and I to the night clubs in Birmingham (UK) but I wanted a 'sports car', so I unbolted the front wings, doors, roof and bumpers and scrapped them, thinking all I needed to do was make up some slick alloy sheet curves to recover the body and away we went, nope, ended up being dragged across the garden onto a scrapyard truck and hauled of at a cost to me. value today in the same condition about thirty time what it was then, lesson learned.
So little effort needed to do it right, those carb cut outs can be done so they don't show.
All too often I see cars in this state and it shows just what scant regard they are held in by uneducated owners, "just a cheap plastic kit car, not worth much", is the general statement when approached and at least two Eagles were lost last year as the owner wanted the VW chassis and engine but not the body and they just wanted the body gone and one is currently under threat of being scrapped unless someone pays $2 for it, so far, no takers, maybe it's the load of work and 700 pounds for the glass set that is a put off as well as the rarity and cost of a decent VW donor or special chassis.
I can understand why guys hack things up, back in 1968 I had a nice little green Morris 8 which used to take my pals and I to the night clubs in Birmingham (UK) but I wanted a 'sports car', so I unbolted the front wings, doors, roof and bumpers and scrapped them, thinking all I needed to do was make up some slick alloy sheet curves to recover the body and away we went, nope, ended up being dragged across the garden onto a scrapyard truck and hauled of at a cost to me. value today in the same condition about thirty time what it was then, lesson learned.
So little effort needed to do it right, those carb cut outs can be done so they don't show.
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