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another front suspension kit for VW beetles

ydeardorff

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476.-dei-Front-wishbone-suspension-1.jpg


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Just over 2K for the price tag...
 

Brett Proctor

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Not to bad of a price for what your getting.

A complete front ready to bolt on.

Would be nice if they had power steering as an option.

I wonder what shipping is, then I guess you would have to pay a duty tax to get it into the country.

How much was the one David got??
 

Brett Proctor

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Nope just checked

If my math is correct the red9 cost is around $2200 and you get power steering and the suspension height is adjustable so those Italian made ones aren't that great
 

ydeardorff

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I think that the shipping would be prohibitive. But I like the look of the italian ones better. The Aluminum ones dont look as strong. Im sure their fine, it probably just a personal preference thing.
Im not sure if the Red9 Designs unit offers a no drop option.
Ive sent an email off to the italian company, asking for more info and photos. Perhaps if/when they respond it will clear things up more.
But either way, its still a price versus shipping issue I think.
At least though there is one more option. Their were only two...
 
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islandman

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Nope just checked

If my math is correct the red9 cost is around $2200 and you get power steering and the suspension height is adjustable so those Italian made ones aren't that great


Depending on exchange rate its about USD 2.2K, although mine came in about USD 2K as I got a discount for a bulk order of other parts. It is rack and pinion steering, but not power steering.
 

ydeardorff

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Islandman,
Ill be interested to hear about how well your front end delivers in handling and stability. We must have a review!:D
Its also good to know that the prices are coming down. competitive sales means lower prices for all of us.
 

islandman

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Islandman,
Ill be interested to hear about how well your front end delivers in handling and stability. We must have a review!:D
Its also good to know that the prices are coming down. competitive sales means lower prices for all of us.


There is another Nova owner much closer to getting his on the road than mine with exactly the same front wishbone suspension (in fact all of his suspension set-up and mine are identical), so I'm also eagerly awaiting his reports too *thumbs up*
 

CyCo

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Im not sure if the Red9 Designs unit offers a no drop option..

They don't. And initially they didn't have it documented that there was a built in 3" drop. So when one Nova owner bought one and went to have it fitted....he found that it wouldn't fit, and would put the front undersill a couple inches under the surface of the road. So a bit of talking with Red9Design, and they took the front end back and re-engineered it so it would fit and not have the 3" drop. Then turned around and said they weren't interested in doing any more.

So, this option would place it up the top for us I'd say. Sadly, that would be $3650 AUD....plus shipping. *whaah*
 

ydeardorff

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I hope islandman knows that....*nothing to see*

Ive gotten a quick reply from the company. Just a "we read your email and will get back with you shortly" response.
 

islandman

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I hope islandman knows that....*nothing to see*

Ive gotten a quick reply from the company. Just a "we read your email and will get back with you shortly" response.

Yes I do. If you talk to Simon there nicely he will do "specials" with no drop for the Nova. Mine is the 3rd one of the specials
 

Peter

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Just had a re-look at that front end and the wishbone are a dead ringer for the ones on our GS Moon XYKD 260 buggies, about 70€ each.
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Not saying they ARE, just very similar.
 

ydeardorff

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It looks like it could be offered as a kit that you could just put in place of the stock components, then just weld them in place. Kind of a modular add on.
But Im sure they wouldnt do that, and good luck finding anyone willing to touch it with a ten foot pole.
I just tried to get ahold of the local subaru dealership, and wasnt even allowed to talk to a mechanic. I was sent to an "advisor" who only wanted to sell me crap.
I hate calling up the dealership and looking for answer from people that know less than I do.
Most mechanics nowadays cant even look up an motor, or parts without a VIN number.... Its reallt getting pathetic....

Do you have a link peter? It might be worth checking into...*thumbs up*
 
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CyCo

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Yes I do. If you talk to Simon there nicely he will do "specials" with no drop for the Nova. Mine is the 3rd one of the specials

Interesting. Wasn't what I last heard. Then again, money talks, and at that price range, it talks loudly.

So........if they do specials, and this is the third one they've done, then they must have made up cad files/templates/jigs? You see, there's a mob here in Sydney that are licensed or a Red9Design branch...
 

islandman

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Interesting. Wasn't what I last heard. Then again, money talks, and at that price range, it talks loudly.

So........if they do specials, and this is the third one they've done, then they must have made up cad files/templates/jigs? You see, there's a mob here in Sydney that are licensed or a Red9Design branch...

I'm not so sure they would class the no drop version as a finished product yet. The company I am using to fit it had to correct a few things to get it to for the chassis properly, which I accepted as it was done as a "special"
 

ydeardorff

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At closer examination I am curious as to how well this will work.
The OEM VW front suspension sets the wheels far to the rear of the mounting point of the front beam. This suspension (at least from this perspective) loooks like it could put the wheels too far forward. It doesnt appear to set the wheels to the rear enough to fit in a stock location.
But then again so do the mendeola, red nine, and eyeball engineering front ends too.

On another note, I got a response email asking for my specific questions and I replied, now again its a waiting game for an answer.

I also found this little gem while searching online...

Index of /Covin/Technical-Research

The cad/cam work on the chassis and suspension is of high interest.*thumbs up*

Look what I found!
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Might be of use to some wanting a standard disk brake conversion....
 
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