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Brett Proctor

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I'm thinking of taking the front control panel apart and see if the unit in there is removable or if it has the specs written on it some where.

Well forget that idea. If its in there its not comming out without a fight. Man! resistors have changed alot
 

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letterman7

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I hate that. Everything is going "solid state" with the circuitry. Even in my '06 Chevy pickup, I can't even change a burned out dashboard light - they're soldered to the circuit board. Well.. I probably could. It's just the point that the manufacturers don't want anyone being able to hack or fix anything so they can sell an entire new unit.
 

Peter

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Not only is SMT a pain to repair but replacing suspect components if so difficult and needs special tools and cold soldering etc. IF you can find the new individual IC, resistor or diode etc (I keep all my old PCBs) which is why we live in a swap new for old world which is so wasteful and ranges from huge LCD TVs, car alternators to your wrist watch, duff? Bin it. It may drive the economy but we live in a very fragile and finite world of rapidly diminishing limited resources.
That white 2mm spaced ribbon cable on the right of the PCB is soooooo rare, I need one for my MG speedo, can't find one.
 
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Brett Proctor

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Figured I'd update this post while I wait for the PVA to dry.

I've been burning the midnight oil trying to figure out a way not to use the complete front control assy. After reading up a little on it I came up with the conclusion that without the front control panel it wasn't going to work right. I read that the voltage reverses to make the actuator move in the oppisite direction and without the front panel I cann't see how thats going to happen. So I looked up what other vehicals that had those actuators and the 01-03 Ram series has them.
So I googled the control panel and came up with this one that is pretty basic(no rear defrost)
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So its off to the junk yard maybe tomorrow to see if I can trace one down and see if it will work. It should I see no reason why it shouldn't. Its just finding one now
 

Brett Proctor

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:D You must be on a first name basis with the yard owner....

Not the owner but with some of the help I am.


You should at least getting the friends and family discount!

I've asked for that a few times. During the christmas holiday I asked what sales they had going on.

Once in a while they give me a price break.
 

RangerBEH

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I do like the ram control simple, clean, production looking and should be easy to integrate into the center console or dash.
 

Brett Proctor

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Went to the smaller of the two yards today and all they had was a panel that had the mirror defrost function in it and the AC function and I don't want the defrost function because I'll never use it, so tomorrow maybe I'll check out the other yard.
If I find one I'm planning to pull all of the wiring for it also.

One concern I have when I find it is the size of the panel. I hope it's not to large. It would look out of place in the car if it were to big.
 

Peter

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"That white 2mm spaced ribbon cable on the right of the PCB is soooooo rare, I need one for my MG speedo, can't find one."
Not quite
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but to repeat myself, if anyone has access to any 2mm spaced ribbon cables about 3" long I would love one, (or a cut length).
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Brett Proctor

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"That white 2mm spaced ribbon cable on the right of the PCB is soooooo rare, I need one for my MG speedo, can't find one."
Not quite
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but to repeat myself, if anyone has access to any 2mm spaced ribbon cables about 3" long I would love one, (or a cut length).
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How many wires in one are you looking for??
 

Peter

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16 or more, (I can soon trim it down) BUT it must be single core not multi-stranded as one end fits (glued) in a 90 degree holder and pushes into the motherboard, the other end solders into the panel.
 

Peter

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Nice try but no coconut, as that 2mm refers to the header pitch not the cable spacing, I was thinking, again, *hmmm* as it is an old MG unit maybe it would be in imperial size which as standard would be 0.1" or 2,54mm. -confused*
The white cable on that control unit is very much like the one on the MG so you can see the wires have a large gap between them as opposed to next to each other as in an IDC cable for instance.
Getting to the point where I may have to use 16 individual solid wires and lay them on a chunk of gaffer tape to make my own ribbon.

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Brett Proctor

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If you tin the ends that would make them basically a solid wire. Thats assumming that you are using a gauge that fits the hole in the board.

Getting to the point where I may have to use 16 individual solid wires and lay them on a chunk of gaffer tape to make my own ribbon.

If your going to use individual wires, after they're soldered in, couldn't you just bundle them together instead of making a ribbon out of them??
 

Peter

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As in the control panel above I only have a couple of inches so it needs to be flat to curve around the end of the upper card. on mine the lower connections are soldered directly into the instrument panel and then the other end is fixed (glued) into a right angle header which in turn plugs into the main board. I tried solder tinning a wire to see if it would fit but the pin is very small, didn't fit, looks like about 1/64" (0.25mm).
I did look at the possibility of single row header and just push the two boards together but there is a slight misalignment and there are clearance issues with a couple of ICs.
 
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Peter

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By the time I have ripped off 16 cables I don't think it would save me any time or work as the one end (black bits) wouldn't fit the header so would have to be inserted one by one in the PCB connector rather than the header and I would have to do each one separately to avoid bunching in the centre so I would be back to 16 individual wires again. some one somewhere does that cable, there's that white one on that control panel for a start.
 

Brett Proctor

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By the time I have ripped off 16 cables I don't think it would save me any time or work as the one end (black bits) wouldn't fit the header so would have to be inserted one by one in the PCB connector rather than the header and I would have to do each one separately to avoid bunching in the centre so I would be back to 16 individual wires again. some one somewhere does that cable, there's that white one on that control panel for a start.


The one in the panel is 50,8mm long and spacing is about 2,51mm

I'm not going to use the panel so if you want me to remove the ribbon and send it to you let me know.
Just pay for the shipping
 

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Peter

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*rock on**dance of happiness**dance of happiness*That would be great. *thank you 1and all*I can get my Bro' Bob in Alabama to sort out the dosh or we end up paying Paypal as much as the postage. To save you work you can just slice the cable off close to the board with a craft knife and I'll strip the ends back when I get it, I will have to anyway on the connector end to get a clean wire.
 
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